I have found PLENTY of help for PSP on yahoo groups lists along with tutorials there. The tutorials may not be as plentiful but they are there. The help is phenomenal among PSP'ers. Finding it out on the web isn't as easy, you're right. But finding it among the groups list is such as yahoo and msn is. And all I wanted were tubes when I found the help I needed. :) Liz

I was looking tonight to see if there was another tubing group I could join on yahoo...I counted. 3348 groups for PSP between tubers and tutorials. Adobe had 598 and Macromedia had 31. MSN was a little harder to figure out: 1,823 for PSP, 358 for Photoshop. So while Photoshop may outnumber PSP on the web in straight tutorials. In groups, PSP FAR outnumbers photoshop in helping each other. Liz